I have to thank you so much for sending this the other day. I wasn’t in a good headspace for lots of IRL reasons and I didn’t want to be lackluster in thanking you: because it means the world to me when I receive messages like this. Being one of the “first” and “oldest” (I put it in quotes because everything’s relative!) blogs to write about how Loki is more than he seems can be hard. Because you WANT new people to enter the fandom and enliven it, but you also want credit for having done the hard work before it was popular, per se.
So thank you very very much for your words of encouragement. ❤
// ……oh wow. Yeah time to block I think. If they’re saying that the point of the myth is that anyone ever deserves to be sexually assaulted and that they agree with that, then… Yikes. But how horribly salient to today’s problem with rape culture, far more than with anything the ancient Norse stood for.
I will say that I’m not going to fling around condemnation when I haven’t seen the post with my own eyes, but the other post is sufficient for me to produce distance from that particular Tumblr user. Others can do as they are comfortable doing. ❤
For some reason people don’t seem to remember that the whole ~Loki can be a woman too~ craze arose not from the myths but from the spectacularly myopic interpretation that fangirls made of a certain arc in the comics in which Loki (definitely not the movie version) stole Sif’s body post-Ragnarök, leaving her to die crippled and alone in a hospital bed locked inside the failing body of an old woman, and proceeded to manipulate everyone into believing that he had changed, all the while Thor was worrying about Sif whom he could not revive somehow.
The whole ~Loki is so fluid uwu~ madness hails directly from the very worst fanfiction has to offer, when a generation of gay-fetishising straight girls started to headcanon around their Thorki smut by positing that Frost Giants could be hermaphrodites, so that Loki could have a vagina and play a more accurate passive partner in all sex-filled stories going forward—because people are sooo progressive about ~Gender~, amirite?? So homo-friendly, eh?! Sure, picturing gay men in stereotypical, unequal heterosexual roles has to be the epitome of Woke! Uwu and stuff!!
Fuck. Fandom.
And fuck rich famous people brainlessly blurting out whatever the worshipping populace likes to hear in order to pour more money into the billion-dollar industry of movie-making, since apparently post-2010 fandoms have stopped knowing how thick and impermeable the barrier between fandom and creators truly is; fuck the crowd pleasers who will say whatever because that doesn’t cost much anyway and to them it will never have real consequence.
And for *fuck’s sake* ENOUGH with the gender obsession in Tumblr-run fandoms!! Fandom was misogynistic enough as it was without seeking to enforce ugly stereotypes and calling it Progress because everybody’s parents don’t get it! Unlike the Goth/emo of yesteryear, *this* has actual, grave fallout in the real world! This really is no cause for celebration, for blood’s sake. Quite the opposite.
Okay, so I don’t usually respond to fandom wank, but this is SO rude and grossly misinformed, that I feel like it’s my fandom duty to reply.
First of all, I’d like to refer to your tags. You said:
In your first point, you state that Loki’s genderfluidity is a “spectacularly myopic interpretation that fangirls made” that surrounded a certain comic arc in which Loki “stole Sif’s body”. We’re not going to debate the whole Sif thing, because it’s true, he did steal Sif’s body, but he’s a VILLAIN. That’s the kind of thing VILLAIN’s do. However, he has proven time and time again, that he sometimes prefers to be in female form, and likes to refer to himself as a female. If your argument were indeed correct, then please explain the following:
1. In the Original Sin arc, Thor gets captured in the Tenth Realm, Heven. This realm had a female-run caste system. In the story, Loki transforms into a woman and takes on the title of “Mistress of Strategies”. Furthermore, in this comic, he doesn’t say he appears to be female, but that he is a female.
2. At the end of the Original Sin arc, even Odin acknowledges Loki’s genderfluidity.
3. Now for an excerpt from Agent of Asgard. Loki here says that his culture “doesn’t really share [earth’s] concept of sexual identity”.
4. In Unbeatable Squirrel Girl #27, Loki literally states that he is a “genderfluid demigod”, I mean you can’t get any more obvious than that really, can you?
5. Now here we have Loki in his female form again, in the Agent of Asgard arc. He even refers to himself as the “Goddess of Stories” and “The Moon-Queen”.
6. And despite his changes in appearance, he is ALWAYS himself. It is NOT an act.
Furthermore, you said “fuck rich famous people brainlessly blurting out whatever the worshipping populace likes to hear”. I’m sorry, but Tom Hiddleston has actually read the comics, unlike yourself, and he’s said time and time again, how much he loves Loki’s character and likes to draw inspiration from the comics. So, I honestly have no idea where you got the idea that he is just “brainlessly blurting out” what fangirls want to hear.
Now, please tell me again how Loki isn’t genderfluid.
If you need some ice for that burn @helshades I know a genderfluid frost giant, but I’m not sure they’ll want to help you after that rant.
So helshades, I don’t usually stoop to answer transphobic wank myself but all evidence both mythological and comics based aside, since it has already been magnificently articulated and evidenced above, I’ll just say this: from all the people who have derived comfort from seeing me (and many others) portraying Loki as gender fluid,
Fuck.
You.
Also? Way to be exquisitely misogynistic in referring to “fan girls” as “stunningly myopic” particularly when you yourself are not armed with accurate facts.